Newbs are important too

OK. I haven't been around the block long and I know I'm not respected (nor do I deserve respect), but I have noticed how many of you "veterans" believe that the newbs are causing the downfall of your precious game. First of all, if we did away with the newbs, there would be one player remaining since many of you believe that a newb (noob, whatever) is anyone not as good as yourself, meaning that everyone except the very best player is a newb. But that's not my main point.

My main point is that skilled players need weaker players in order to be percieved as skilled players. In history, anyone great in their field (be it a warrior, athlete, political figure, etc.) built their legend not only based on their victories over great adversaries, but also by their domination of weaker opponents.

It's impressive to see a great bolo player beat another, but it's also impressive when any number of you beat me in a strict in less than a minute (not an uncommon event unfortunately). Take away the newbs, and for many of you, you'd be taking away many of those who respect your ability.

So learn to accept newbs even though they may get your lgm killed occasionally and they make many mistakes. Although some of you had more talent and progressed quicker than others, we all started out (and some of us may always be) a newb.

burt im a noob and i still think that sounds fucking stupid

...it's the best his hick family could come up with.

ziento, that's because you lack maturity and i'm probably 10 years older than you so I wouldn't expect you to be able to carry an intelligent conversation.

If irony came in fatal doses, I believe this would have been enough to eliminate everything in our biosphere.

hah burt how old are you?

old enough to buy beer but not old enough to preface stories with, "when I was younger."

wow you can buy beer! YOU DESERVE A FUCKING MEDAL. i got mine when i first bought beer. its still sitting above the fireplace...but burt im not knocking you personally. but what you said just sounded silly. oh and 'hold a proper conversation'? as far as i know....this is a forum.....

ok, so maybe my presentation sucked, but so far i haven't been able to say anything in a forum without someone dogpiling me.

All I was try to say is that it's dumb to say "off with the newbs because they mess up the games" since it's only natural that there will be a large scale of skill in anything competitive. Until there is a way to exclude those who are deemed unworthy, it's only a non-productive way to insult others in order to feel better about yourself.

Whatever, i don't even really care about this anymore. I'm tired and have lost the will to fight. lol.

thats all you had to say burt. instead of rambling on about a topic why not just get to the point. maybe people wont shit on you as much...

why are you so argumentative? i've let my guard down and you swing for my chin. chill dude.

burt wrote:

ok, so maybe my presentation sucked, but so far i haven't been able to say anything in a forum without someone dogpiling me.

your presentation was fine.

burt wrote:

All I was try to say is that it's dumb to say "off with the newbs because they mess up the games" since it's only natural that there will be a large scale of skill in anything competitive. Until there is a way to exclude those who are deemed unworthy, it's only a non-productive way to insult others in order to feel better about yourself.

I personally feel that most of the players currently playing winbolo .. who many would call "vets" ... are not very good. I agree completely with your original post. Without the newer players .. you have noone to be better than, you must suffer the newer players in games with you, killing your lgm's, being total idiots due to their ignorance of how the game is played, you must teach them as best you can so that later, they will turn into an ally you don't mind being on the same team as.

burt wrote:

Whatever, i don't even really care about this anymore. I'm tired and have lost the will to fight. lol.

its too bad, its a good arguement, you shouldn't lose the will to fight simply becuase some people say "your stupid, you suck" and give no actual intellegent reason why. Such as the others who replied to this thread.

Min

i never said he sucks, nor did i say hes stupid. i just gave my personal opinion on what he said. its a forum isnt that what theyre for?

Ziento wrote:

burt im a noob and i still think that sounds fucking stupid

Ziento wrote:

i never said he sucks, nor did i say hes stupid. i just gave my personal opinion on what he said. its a forum isnt that what theyre for?

:/ .....

lol i didnt say HES stupid tee hee

it was still some pretty major discouragment don't you think?

yeah. sorry burt. i shall never speak my mind again..

Ziento wrote:

yeah. sorry burt. i shall never speak my mind again..

Thats not the point. Speak your mind as much as you want, but do you really need to run him so badly into the ground that he just gives up?

well actually theres been this unofficial war against burt since i met him. some arguement. dont really know what it was. but now i do it more for fun. its nothing personal just something to do. i guess im just a cunt..

Ziento wrote:

well actually theres been this unofficial war against burt since i met him. some arguement. dont really know what it was. but now i do it more for fun. its nothing personal just something to do. i guess im just a cunt..

ok :) I'll give it to you and leave you alone :P

aww. nah run me into the ground. i love a good verbal fight. you gotta admit its fun :wink:

Ziento wrote:

aww. nah run me into the ground. i love a good verbal fight. you gotta admit its fun :wink:

As fun as it may be, which I agree, it can be, I am not overly witty when I am tired and sick, so instead of slaughtering you verbally, I would just mildly toast you ;)

-Liz

mmmmmmmmmmmmm toast. im eating pumpkin won-tons :shock: :shock:

Newbs are very improtant. I am willing to help newbs if THEY DONT ACT LIKE TOTAL DOUCHE BAGS! I'm willing to help someone in a game who says "I'm new, and I'm want to know, how do I take red bases?" (I actually got that once and I told 'em how) But I am NOT wanting to help fags like nightsahde, Samurai, or kewlkidbrent who think theyre all pro and theyve never played once online in their lives, but they claim to have played lots offline (how queer) set up IRC, simply because they act like dicks.

Mah two and 1/2 cent