May 23, 2007 03:47 Spawns
Jhood and I engaged in 11 matchs of smallball. We concluded that...

(1) uno. - In a 1v1 map where there are 2 spawns, the builder will ALWAYS spawn in the same spot no matter how many times you kill a builder, even if you play on a different bot.

(2) dos. - Call west when in smallball, you'll see why ;)

(3) tres. - Dont play "Winner picks sides" when playing rounds of smallball

What I would like the community to do in this thread is record on what side of a 1v1 map the builder spawns on. It would be nice to post the log(s).

Smallball
Builder spawns:
West
Logs:
http://winbolo.net/gamelog.php?key=db50c3758edb4ef80579a71bf457a1f4
http://winbolo.net/gamelog.php?key=1d85285f66f80479214985f983b84486
http://winbolo.net/gamelog.php?key=7a8f2825a248b73b6a97eab848e6c90a
http://winbolo.net/gamelog.php?key=7a8f2825a248b73b6a97eab848e6c90a
http://winbolo.net/gamelog.php?key=d43e78ede78d77858b2ac17911853050
http://winbolo.net/gamelog.php?key=a57aeef9dcf49b58b00e9c29fe1dccf6
http://winbolo.net/gamelog.php?key=793205077e1d927c2229279434e8401e
http://winbolo.net/gamelog.php?key=92027f43f4982001f80034d6641312a7
http://winbolo.net/gamelog.php?key=7e9822b54c48817c078344f97574b23f
http://winbolo.net/gamelog.php?key=e5219f0ac4801b3867a5e969f39e29b7
http://winbolo.net/gamelog.php?key=d633b21f40ede2132520373832bfca06
http://winbolo.net/gamelog.php?key=69a1103a22c74e1e14e8ccbd80a610d1


One more thing, would anyone know why it spawns on the same side everytime?
May 23, 2007 04:11
Some tips for playing smallball:

  • Never go for the first pill unless the other player is preoccupied with something else.
    Never start East.
    Don't bother shooting lgms unless a pill capture is imminent.
    Don't lose your lgm anywhere but far East or far West.
    Repair neutral pills unless you can grab them.
    Don't bother boating over to deep-sea unless you're playing someone unfamiliar with Smallball (or cool fool).
    Refuel to maximum shells and stock up on trees. Mines are cheap in such a small map IMO.
    Don't cross the middle line without paving it, or when your opponent might have ammo. Instant ownage.
    Don't deforest because you only have one base and it reloads slowly after being drained.
    Pave the middle line of rubble just enough to be able to cross and vulture.
    Don't get vultured.
    Last but not least, don't try to rape the other base unless your opponent just died, or you have a pill in your tank, ready to plant.
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May 23, 2007 23:57
The game events don't mean shit unless we can view the logs.

I thought the LGM respawn algo (or maybe it's tank respawn..) was influenced by tanks, bases, and pills.
May 24, 2007 21:56
jhood wrote:
Some tips for playing smallball:


Don't reveal all of our secrets, jhood.

CF
May 25, 2007 18:14
It's best if nothing about you is ever 'revealed' CF.
May 26, 2007 04:34
Revealed? Turning something back into underage cow meat? Yeah, that's about how I describe CF.
May 26, 2007 19:43
i think the maps with only two starts have the same lgm spawns depends on when ur making the map...like on which side u put the first start on...but im totally sure on this tho :?