When is a Ban not a Ban?

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Feb 13, 2008 08:20 When is a Ban not a Ban?
DS banned me because: "Der joined a strict and purposely ruined it by rebuilding a pill while the game was in progress" - note that this isn't against policy. There were raging debates about this over a year ago and it was concluded by all ops at the time that unless and until someone is asked to leave they can do whatever they want in the middle of a game. Period. How do I know? Because people were joining games and ruining them, and when ops were asked about it (including LRL, Ren, Underdog and others) they specifically defended that position. When I exclaimed 'but that allows people to ruin games!' ops responded: then lock the @#$!ing game. Fair? Maybe not, but it's policy.

Underdog banned me because: "Later, he refused to leave a strict passworded game when asked by someone who was in the game before him. So kick ban issued." Note that I also asked Underdog to leave. Since neither of us made the map and the person who did spawn it specifically stated I could stay it is quite clear Underdog deserves to be banned for not leaving at least as much (if not more so) than I do. The policy states that if anyone asks you to leave you should: since we both asked the other to leave and neither did promptly we both should be banned if either. Anyone who doesn't follow this logic needs to retake the third grade, possibly more than once.

I don't play much anymore and honestly could care less about being banned, but as usual I wonder: doesn't anyone care that the ops are violating policy to ban at whim? Just curious, though I don't suspect I'll be back to check on your answers anytime soon. Cheers!
Feb 13, 2008 11:22
who controls this site? who decides who gets banned? what is affected if u are banned? and even if u are banned cant u just use a new name or not use winbolo.net and just tracker and join games anyways?is there a list of banned players?
Feb 13, 2008 14:30
Everyone has like you not being here, how about you go suck a measuring cup?

Thuggin4life wrote:
who controls this site? who decides who gets banned? what is affected if u are banned? and even if u are banned cant u just use a new name or not use winbolo.net and just tracker and join games anyways?is there a list of banned players?


She is not talking about .net
Feb 13, 2008 14:45 Re: When is a Ban not a Ban?
derami wrote:
doesn't anyone care that the ops are violating policy to ban at whim?

I don't think anyone cares nor are surprised. The policy was a sham from the beginning. But your logic does seem to make sense.

Anyway, it doesn't matter if you are banned from .us. I have spawners and an irc game bot going which you can use if needed.
Feb 13, 2008 14:53
To be honest der, LRL bots are broken more then half the time. Wyobot is permabroken because it spits out the wrong ports, and bottie gives the 123 error. Your really not missing much.
Feb 13, 2008 15:03
der, dont pretend that u dont care about this game, blame it on the ops and shit. your just a bitter douche bag that loves the penis, thats why your banned. i think its funny how u say u could care less, yet, u reply to just about everything that is said about u or something u feel the need to talk about. let it go fool, follow your own damn advice. btw, policy means nothing when bot owners just dont fuckin like u dude. get over it. I dont see a need in wanting to stick around in a community where most if not all the people in it think your one big gay punchline. :idea: news flash :idea: nobody hates gay/bi people, they just hate u. so take your smug ass somewhere else.

thuggin, just dont be a dick like derami and everything will be fine. when u roll around just to be an ass, mess up games its a bad thing, and u will get a rep. u dont want. once u get that rep ops, and bot owners are just counting the days till u fuck up and then its over.

a ban from a bot is set by ip address and is solely up to the bot owner. bot owners dont have to abide by the policy if they dont want to. if the bot owner dont like u then its his bot and he can do whatever the fuck he/she pleases with it. policy really only applies to irc. so not using wbn will not help u, if your banned from irc all that stops u from is easly getting passwords to strict games. u can still play opens and non passworded games.

just read the policy man, it tells u everything. with any kind of policy there are loop holes, but odds are if your lookin for one u fucked up anyway because the rules are SIMPLE and EASY to follow.
Feb 13, 2008 17:14 Re: When is a Ban not a Ban?
derami wrote:
DS banned me because: "Der joined a strict and purposely ruined it by rebuilding a pill while the game was in progress" - note that this isn't against policy. There were raging debates about this over a year ago and it was concluded by all ops at the time that unless and until someone is asked to leave they can do whatever they want in the middle of a game. Period. How do I know? Because people were joining games and ruining them, and when ops were asked about it (including LRL, Ren, Underdog and others) they specifically defended that position. When I exclaimed 'but that allows people to ruin games!' ops responded: then lock the @#$!ing game. Fair? Maybe not, but it's policy.

Underdog banned me because: "Later, he refused to leave a strict passworded game when asked by someone who was in the game before him. So kick ban issued." Note that I also asked Underdog to leave. Since neither of us made the map and the person who did spawn it specifically stated I could stay it is quite clear Underdog deserves to be banned for not leaving at least as much (if not more so) than I do. The policy states that if anyone asks you to leave you should: since we both asked the other to leave and neither did promptly we both should be banned if either. Anyone who doesn't follow this logic needs to retake the third grade, possibly more than once.

I don't play much anymore and honestly could care less about being banned, but as usual I wonder: doesn't anyone care that the ops are violating policy to ban at whim? Just curious, though I don't suspect I'll be back to check on your answers anytime soon. Cheers!





Der, You still know thats childish and noobish. Even that shit is ture, You know what you did was an asshole move. How you you like it if some came in a ruined your game.... Oh wait! Duh that has happened b4 and you cried about it like a little bitch !Seen
Feb 13, 2008 18:32
hahahahhaha
mods, ops, adminz and owners are right, and what they say goes
they are right, you are wrong
welcome to the fuckin internet :)
Feb 13, 2008 18:57
Rude wrote:

welcome to the fuckin internet :)

And welcome to Winbolo, Rude.
Feb 13, 2008 20:47
Actually der I left as soon as you said to leave. You guys should know better than believing a word that comes out of this retarded perverts keyboard.

You were banned for not following policy, you being unable to understand it is no excuse for breaking it. You were asked multiple times to leave and didn't leave. After being banned from irc but not the server as we don't have direct access to ban from bottie, you joined the next game and asked me to leave after I joined. I did. If I didn't you might have something to complain about. But I guess when you have no grounds to bitch, making up lies is the only thing you can do.

Go wear some more measuring cups
Feb 13, 2008 21:11
Underdog, can you confirm the claim that it is not against .us policy to ruin a tourney/strict game if you join in progress because it was not locked?
Feb 13, 2008 23:16
Cause Im the miggity miggity miggity miggity MACK!!! daddy...
Feb 14, 2008 01:11
all the info is here... you ruined a strict game...

http://www.winbolo.us/forums/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=276




and you did it maliciously as shown in the pic above from your statements that followed.... did you really expect not to be banned after that...you've been around long enough to know that what you were doing was wrong and to know the your intent was merely to piss off the players in that game... take responsibility for your actions and stop trying to find loopholes to defend your wrong misdoings....


you ruined a strict game in progress... you were banned... end of story...

and then you did this on top of that and even joined irc under a new ip:

http://www.winbolo.us/forums/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=278

yet you could care less right?
Feb 14, 2008 04:07
Thuggin4life wrote:
who controls this site? who decides who gets banned?

Hard to say.. let's apply the Dilbert Principle:

The "Dilbert Principle" asserts that the most ineffective workers are systematically moved to the place where they can do the least damage: management.

That has to be the most accurate description of LRL and Underdog that I can come up with.

I'm only half kidding though, as underdog recently used Packer's game killing to ban Boro.
Feb 14, 2008 04:32
you must really miss it around here to keep coming and dragging stuff up to prove useless points hood...

or since we are using definitions today... I would say that interloper or meddler fits your description:

interloper: 1. One that interferes with the affairs of others, often for selfish reasons; a meddler. 2. One that intrudes in a place, situation, or activity

better yet:

meddler: an officious annoying person who interferes with others

but really you both need to let it go and move on... you fucked up one way or another... accept the consequences and move on...
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