Explanation of this log

Before I start, I am making no accusations here, I just want to understand why this happened and if it is lag or something else.

I refer to the log file:
http://winbolo.net/gamelog.php?mode=logfile&key=40c2eb7a22d332682ad8c2fef01522e2

At 12:05 Az runs over mines, then we duel, then I shoot him one or more times and I die, then he goes west and attempts a pill take and receives a few more hits without dying. Eventually he dies.

In exactly the same game about 13:27 I die running over a mine. I had full health as you can see I came straight from the start.

Can someone explain this?

Most likely lag caused those mines not to blow up on his screen.

Nemokrad wrote:

Most likely lag caused those mines not to blow up on his screen.

He ran straight over mines. I am still very unclear.

I'm not sure what you are unclear about because I thought I was pretty clear. Due to lag there were no mines on his screen therefore it did not blow him up.

So what you are saying is that mines on the map AND in the log were not in his map so therefore he didn't lose health?

That really sucks.

ErYan wrote:

So what you are saying is that mines on the map AND in the log were not in his map so therefore he didn't lose health?

That really sucks.

Its quite simple really. the server records what it see's, it see's mines so you see mines in the logfile. However that map data is stored locally on the client, so he may have shot those mines on hit screen, or they blew up, but it didn't properly update the map due to lag or whatever. So on his client, he see's no mines, and just drives over a row of craters. your client see's the mines blow up, reports it to the server, the server removes the mines. But damage is handled clientside, so he saw no damage.

As I said, simple. Lag/Bugs happen.

Min

ErYan wrote:

That really sucks.

Look at the bright side... at least it gives you an excuse when someone kicks your sorry ass.

stimpy wrote:

ErYan wrote:

That really sucks.

Look at the bright side... at least it gives you an excuse when someone kicks your sorry ass.

I just need a fair playing field so I can put a whup ass on big mouths like you.

ErYan wrote:

I just need a fair playing field so I can put a whup ass on big mouths like you.

Then what are you bitching about?

see, you snivel because you can't hit peoples lgms, or whatever, but the thing you don't seem to realize is. They can't hit yours either!, they can't kill you very well either! ... your lag actually helps you, this game has always been that way(well, since 1.10), a good example is when GB comes states side and gets his ass handed to him because he can't hide under his lag cloak anymore.

Min wrote:

ErYan wrote:

I just need a fair playing field so I can put a whup ass on big mouths like you.

Then what are you bitching about?

see, you snivel because you can't hit peoples lgms, or whatever, but the thing you don't seem to realize is. They can't hit yours either!, they can't kill you very well either! ... your lag actually helps you, this game has always been that way(well, since 1.10), a good example is when GB comes states side and gets his ass handed to him because he can't hide under his lag cloak anymore.

Well that makes a lot of sense. Someone runs over mines and doesn't die yet I do, that is to my advantage. Someone has quicker reaction time due to latency and it is to my advantage. I will keep that in mind.

ErYan wrote:

Well that makes a lot of sense. Someone runs over mines and doesn't die yet I do, that is to my advantage. Someone has quicker reaction time due to latency and it is to my advantage. I will keep that in mind.

ErYan, try to stay with us. Lag is a complex issue, and can work inconsistently. Have you ever planted some mines and watched them turn into craters before your very eyes even though nothing disturbed them? All sorts of shit like that happens. In any case, generally it is believed the lagger has the advantage. You're the lagger, because you're from Australia or wherever. So YOU have the advantage. Stop making excuses. If you lose, blame yourself. That's how you get better.

Nemokrad wrote:

ErYan wrote:

Well that makes a lot of sense. Someone runs over mines and doesn't die yet I do, that is to my advantage. Someone has quicker reaction time due to latency and it is to my advantage. I will keep that in mind.

ErYan, try to stay with us. Lag is a complex issue, and can work inconsistently. Have you ever planted some mines and watched them turn into craters before your very eyes even though nothing disturbed them? All sorts of shit like that happens. In any case, generally it is believed the lagger has the advantage. You're the lagger, because you're from Australia or wherever. So YOU have the advantage. Stop making excuses. If you lose, blame yourself. That's how you get better.

OK thanks. I am listening.

ErYan wrote:

Someone runs over mines and doesn't die yet I do, that is to my advantage. Someone has quicker reaction time due to latency and it is to my advantage.

Someone can't shoot you directly because your laggy, your advantage. People can't shoot your lgm because your laggy, your advantage. Sorry but being laggy is an advantage, just because you don't perceive it that way doesn't make it less true.

It has been this way throughout the ages, I fondly remember phreeze, he played for awhile, thought he was awesome (he was just laggy). When he finally got a decent connection, he was unable to win anymore, he quit playing shortly afterwords.

Now in past we've even had some people who attempt to make themselves purposely more laggy at the right times, so that they have a even greater advantage. (opening a huge amount of websites just as they rush in for various pillwaring maneuvers

Min

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