The Features To Bring Winbolo Forward!

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TRBB
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Posts: 1
(2/20/03 12:04:01 am)
Reply The Features To Bring WinBolo Forward!
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1. bots (allows people to play by them selves when they cant get on the internet or there are no servers. Great for helping to keep peoples interest in the game.)

2.new gaming aspect (i wouldnt use airstrikes but it is the kinda thing i am aiming at)

3. new graphics and choice to use skins eg. metallic, futuristic and nostalgia

4. better interface, by interface i mean like the area where you select servers etc. (make it look more professional)

5. ability to have a server running off your computer

6. mac, linux and winbolo all merge into one (more online users, which means more servers, which means more choice which means more popularity)

ANYWAY, tell me what you think. Dont think i am just a complainer cause i am not. I just want this game to live up to its full potential.

John Morrison
ezOP
Posts: 70
(2/20/03 12:21:03 am)
Reply Re: The Features To Bring WinBolo Forward!
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Just a quick reply of things already present in WinBolo.


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1. bots (allows people to play by them selves when they cant get on the internet or there are no servers. Great for helping to keep peoples interest in the game.)
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The brain SDK is available in the Sample Code directory or your WinBolo folder. People wishing to write brains can use the template provided. (Please note WinBolo does not currently come with any brains)


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3. new graphics and choice to use skins eg. metallic, futuristic and nostalgia
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Customised sounds will be in the next version, Customised graphics will be in the version after that (tentively)


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4. better interface, by interface i mean like the area where you select servers etc. (make it look more professional)
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Servers can be selected from the "Internet Game Finder" window.


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5. ability to have a server running off your computer
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Winbolods.exe and linbolods provides dedicated server functionality.

John.


TRBB
Registered User
Posts: 2
(2/21/03 2:44:44 am)
Reply More Ideas!
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BTW/ By a better template I mean make the program look more professional, make the menus look better.

Also it would be good if it came with built in bots.
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Anyway expanding or adding a few new ideas from yesterday.

*Single player missions - just a thought however it would be difficult.

*Adding one gameplay feature - expanded on the idea.
Everyplayer has one building that is theres. It is a building with a garage. Protected by two pillboxes on the edge of the map (on an island surrounded by deep water.)

The idea is that only your tank can make it to the island alive and go into the garage, here if you have the right resources then you can upgrade certain features of your tank (ie. armour, bullet capacity, bullet effectivness and shot range).

I definately think it is a worthy feature to add and would make the gameplay more dinamic and long lasting. Plus it would give people who dont own any pillboxes or bases a chance.

*MORE IDEAS!!!!!!

Allow each player to select one of four teams to join at the start each with their own advantages. For instance (one team starts off better than another team except the upgrades at their base arent very good so while they start out better in the long run they arent.

I have two ideas for teams.

Teams version 1:

Humans (Green Tank)
Cyborgs (Zebra Coloured Tank)
Machines (Metallic Blue Tank)
Aliens (Red Tank)

Teams version 2:

Army (Green tank)
Navy (Blue tank)
Airforce (Red tank)
Rebels (Zebra Coloured Tank)

The teams have nothing to do with alliances in the game, you can still team up with anyone. The tanks each have their own disadvantages and advantages so it evens out. The teams would be great to incorporate into a single player campaign.

ANYWAY, Just a few ideas, tell me what you think.

TRBB
Registered User
Posts: 3
(2/21/03 3:07:49 am)
Reply Just adding one last thing!
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*Perhaps kills could play a more significant role in the game (the more kills you get the more update pionts you can use at the garage. Or each time someone dies they leave a spanner. collect the spanner and got to your garage to use it. (A spanner would be like an updation point.

TheJky
Registered User
Posts: 7
(2/22/03 2:39:46 pm)
Reply interesting
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interesting ideas but it would take away from the point of bolo, its nice and simple the way it is now....you have to use strategy not run around looking for powerup's, if you want a game somewhat like you described cept without pills download bzflag

:!: For the customized graphix, you should be able to go into some edit mode where you can paint a square the size of your tank, put a feature in so that you can make an invisible color so your tank doesn't have to be a box. Also, lock the tank to be at least 6 by 4 pixels or something like that so you can always see tanks (although players could just use tank labels). Whith this, the tank could look like anything you wanted and could draw, airplanes, blobs, you name it :D

I for one think it would be a tragedy to alter the original gameplay by adding new "features" like airstrikes. Bolo is a very balanced game. If those "features" were added I would hope you could disable them as you can now disable invisible mines and such.

I guess that would be ok, to be able to turn on and off the features. They could be called different things.

ie. Game with features - Cyberplay
Game without features - Nostalgiaplay

Anyway, i know the names suck but just a thought.

Does anyone else have any other ideas for winbolo enhancements? If so, I would love to hear them so please post them here.

i would like a way to watch winbolo games with out havin to ally some one..

:!: :evil: :twisted: :( :x I can't even belive that you people would do such a sick, twisted thing to this wonderful game. It would ruin it. It would turn bolo into a passing fad like all new games.(age of mytology, empire earth, age of empires). It would take away that timlessness effect that you get when you play bolo (kinda nostalgic). I think that any real changes to the game play (like your own base, air strikes, different weapons, stuff of the like) would be bad, but things like skins, some GOOD brains and borgs (like AIndy) and anything that might make it look better would be nice. DON'T EVEN THINK OF CHANGING BOLO!!!!

*<|:o)

Look Madd Max there is no need to get angry. I think it is good for everyone to put their ideas on the table. And if you had bothered to read my first post only 1 out of 7 suggestions put forward gameplay changes. All the others were things like adding bots. Better interface etc. to make it look cooler so calm down and let people use some creativity to make WinBolo a better experience for everyone.

I like the BOLO game as it is, but new options couldn't kill it as long as you make it simple, I mean, this isn't a tank simulator or anything crazy. The new interface would be cool, and I like the sound of new BOTs, i'll have to look up that template mentioned and see if i can make one....that may take awhile, i know zip about programming, but for bolo, i can learn :). I like the idea of being able to upgrade your tank (faster, more armor, etc). But i think it would be better to do it on a total point basis for all attributes. For instance, you have 180 pts to distribute between speed, armor, range, damage, ammo, mines, trees. Maybe have a little chart that shows you how the basic bolo looks, then show how yours compares via a bar graph. That would add alot of diversity as it as you could have people who do nothing but combat with speed, range, armor, damage, and ammo, or the complete opposite with someone doing nothing but building so they carry alot of trees etc... just a thought..

sitTinG dUck

Good to see that you understand the need to make WinBolo more professional Sitting Duck. I would love to see a comment or two from the people running the WinBolo project. Their thoughs are what really count.

Yours Respectively,
TRBB

I already posted my thoughts above to your intial post.

Yes, I know what you think Elvis however I still feel that there are alot more people out there that could/can contribute to this thread.

Bah. Bolo is Bolo is Bolo. It's been substantially the same for over a decade.

I'm all for superficial new features like customisable sounds/graphics etc, but anything that changes the gameplay is like adding a new piece to Chess - it shouldn't be done.

I agree with evercat...

Plus, the way winbolo is now its very balanced, with a good amount of offensive stuff,(e.g. pills, mines, etc.) and a good amount of defensive stuff to nuetralize that offensive power.(e.g. walls, mines, pills, etc.):D

So, if there were any big features that really affected the game play like air strikes and protected garages, ppl might play it more, but it would go to its grave sooner. :oops:

It's like smoking. You feel cool, and are cool, but your life is shorter. :cry:

I don't object to features that don't affect game play that much, like the ability to watch games and Winbolo.net, but please don't substantially change the entire game.:P

Jay the Speeding Ray

TRBB wrote:

"I would love to see a comment or two from the people running the WinBolo project. Their thoughts are what really count.".

Okay mr TRBB (please post what your name means) everybody's opinions and thoughts count. We are all equals. And the people running the WinBolo project should want to read feedback from the general WinBolo community to make the game better for everyone.

Yours Respectively,
Madd Maxx (Canadian)

Madd Maxx stop having a go at me, your opinion isnt worth as much as the Administrators simply because they are the ones that make the final desicion. Your opinion is still valuable though.

I do agree with you guys, primarily more importantly than anything is to make Winbolo have an easier interface, perhaps build in the IRC Chatroom, put in bots etc.

Then depending on what happens perhaps the new gameplay features could be tried down the track.

I COMPLETELY DISAGREE ON THE SMOKING THING. IT AINT COOL

My name stands for The Real Bash Bro, coined the term when I was in year 7 and cant be stuffed to change it.

common more people must have ideas or views on the ideas suggested,

We are all equals

Except that some of us are more equals then others :D

I agree with evercat - I'm all for updating the superficial stuff - like making the tanks look like real tanks instead of goofy boxs, updating the joining mechanism so it's much easier to start games, and having lgm being naked women running around, but leave the playstyle the same just as chess is kept the same despite all the fancy stuff added to it.

I agree fi. only changes to gameplay that should be made .. is to make it closer to macbolo gameplay

Min

To change the graphics to change the sound themes...wouldnt that be changing winbolo? People downloaded winbolo for winbolo not for it to be changed. I dont see why not with the sound themes but the graphics? Only skin types...also known as "viperbolo" created by Min and Viper.

well ajr, its your choice to use a skin or not. I personally like the default graphics. but that doesn't mean I won't create some newer graphics so that people who think graphics are important will enjoy things more.

Min

h4tred wrote:

To change the graphics to change the sound themes...wouldnt that be changing winbolo?

Don't we have thousands of different ways the chess pieces can look like -from the standard chinese version to the Star Wars Chess sets - and yet it's the exact same game played the exact same way no matter how the pieces look like. Also, despite having being created over 2500 year, it's still a very popular game. I'm all for the end user having the option to modify how the graphics looks to them instead of being stuck to an old and boring look. I'd love modern looking tanks, or tanks sporting the logo of its owner (like a sport car in a way), explosions that looks like real firey explosions, etc, while keeping it all in the 2 dimensional "board" that we play on...

the problem of course is that making good looking graphics when your restricted to 16x16 sprite sizes ... is very very tough

Min wrote:

the problem of course is that making good looking graphics when your restricted to 16x16 sprite sizes ... is very very tough

Indeed. If that restriction was lifted.......oooola, it could quite fun and interesting and would enable us to bring more people into the game...

well, I think I'll just have to do the best I can with that restriction .... I'm sure I'll come up with something interesting. just hope others follow my lead .. hopefully someone with same decent graphics ability

Min