Nice little chat with SkyWalker

Dec 22, 2003 16:19 Nice little chat with SkyWalker
Quietly removing myself from this thread (although what I erased was quoted twice)
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Dec 22, 2003 18:03
i still dont see how I was bias? can someone break it down for me
Dec 22, 2003 18:17
I was just thinking about stating that people accused LRL of hacking in the game and why I thought it was fine to state in the channel.

in the real world, if someone like Michael Jackson rapes a a little boy or is accused of it, it becomes public knowledge. It may have happened, maybe not. But in cases like that, many times other people come forward to reveal it happened to them as well. As far as being biased, I still dont see it. The log you pasted didn't prove bias. Maybe that isn't what you were trying to prove Jhood. I would like to know what you are trying to prove though.
Dec 22, 2003 18:17
Fuck you, Jhood.

Hahaha! I win!

Cyproject: 1 Idiot: 0.
Dec 22, 2003 18:19
w00t teh w1n!
OMG HAX jhood HAX's he stole merrychristmas' irc text!
Dec 22, 2003 18:24
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Dec 22, 2003 18:28
If min was caught cheating I would post it here before i brought it to irc :)
Dec 22, 2003 18:40
.::jhood::. wrote:
You seem to have an issue with yes or no questions.
LRL played Zach in a 1x1, LRL wins. Several people who were not in the game accuse LRL of hacking. You make it public, even though you said its impossible to tell if a hack was used in the game, yet you go public with accusations from people who are even further from the knowedge of the hack that Zach.
If the tables were turned, and Min was the one accused, whould it be made public?
Im not to sure as to what raping little boys has to do with WinBolo..


of course it would go public, is that the reason you pasted that whole log, to find out if I would do the same to others? the answer is yes. In my tourny rules that I sent to all participating players, I said that no hacks can be used and it would mean automatic forfeit. So, I had to take these accusations seriously. I spoke to LRL abuot them and I would have done the same with anyone. Also, as I said before if you dont want me to run the next tourny do it yourself. I could care less who runs it, but I've seen so many tournys fail. My tournament has gone the farthest to date. And everything is still on schedule. I have yet to see anyone else succeed here. So be my guest and do it all.
Dec 22, 2003 18:42
When Sky first had a question, he PM'd me (don't know how many others he PM'd) and asked me about it. I asked if there was there any observer? He said no. I asked if anyone made a recording of the game? He said no.

As long as Sky was asking in private, he was investigating. When he made the announcement in the channel, I thought why make public accusations? I think Sky should’ve kept it quiet until he finished his investigation; then, depending on the results. Let it drop, or make LRL forfeit his match with Zach.

LRL has played two people in the tourney, first was Ren, and he would’ve screamed at the tops of his lungs if he thought LRL had cheated. So the only person that could have accused LRL was Zach, since he was the only other person that LRL had played in the tourney to that point.

What I suggested was at least to look at the game logs. We know how many bullets a tank holds, and how long it takes to refuel. So, in the game logs does anything appear anomalous on LRL's part? Too many pill or base captures in to short of an interval? I still think looking at the game logs might reveal the truth.
Dec 22, 2003 18:46
yep, i would have screamed.. i hate cheaters :P
Dec 22, 2003 18:47
wonka wrote:
When Sky first had a question, he PM'd me (don't know how many others he PM'd) and asked me about it. I asked if there was there any observer? He said no. I asked if anyone made a recording of the game? He said no.

As long as Sky was asking in private, he was investigating. When he made the announcement in the channel, I thought why make public accusations? I think Sky should’ve kept it quiet until he finished his investigation; then, depending on the results. Let it drop, or make LRL forfeit his match with Zach.

LRL has played two people in the tourney, first was Ren, and he would’ve screamed at the tops of his lungs if he thought LRL had cheated. So the only person that could have accused LRL was Zach, since he was the only other person that LRL had played in the tourney to that point.

What I suggested was at least to look at the game logs. We know how many bullets a tank holds, and how long it takes to refuel. So, in the game logs does anything appear anomalous on LRL's part? Too many pill or base captures in to short of an interval? I still think looking at the game logs might reveal the truth.


thats far too tedious a task. besides LRL said he didnt cheat and I took his word for it. this is a dead issue. also Zach did not accuse anyone of cheating just that LRL played a flawless game. So Zach gave LRL mad props for excellent gameplay
Dec 22, 2003 18:52
"You were never here"
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Dec 22, 2003 19:00
.::jhood::. wrote:
..Taking accusations seriously from people who dont speak to LRL, and who werent in the game? Ok. That makes sense.
As for me running a tourny, I can be considered biased as well, only I am man enough to admit that. Its not hard to run a tourney, seeing that you still have time to fight with a 13 year old.

What have you really done with this? You didnt make the website, you didnt create #tourney, what are you running? DZ isnt showing, you never expected that? Getting on IRC every few days to see if two people are online isnt really 'running a tourney'.


who said the accusers dont speak to LRL? I know I didnt. Stll how was I biased? I never took credit for BT, psycho, sheeps, sticks, underdog, kax, pawn, etc etc work and help on the tourny. I only asked for help in organizing a tourny. I would have been happy with just "winbolo tourny 2003" it was most of the community that gave me credit and now call it Sky's tourny 2003
Dec 22, 2003 19:05
Quietly removing myself from this thread as I will do again ~15 months ago
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Dec 22, 2003 19:06
Removing myself quietly from this thread.
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Dec 22, 2003 19:15
.::jhood::. wrote:
thats far too tedious a task. besides LRL said he didnt cheat and I took his word for it. this is a dead issue. also Zach did not accuse anyone of cheating just that LRL played a flawless game. So Zach gave LRL mad props for excellent gameplay

If it was a dead issue, why did you bring it up to stimpy?


are you gay for LRL, or just like teh cock? The issue wasnt dead when i mentioned it to stimpy.
Dec 22, 2003 19:44
Removing myself quietly from this thread.
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Dec 22, 2003 20:19
this is, interesting......
Dec 22, 2003 20:26 Re: Nice little chat with SkyWalker
.::jhood::. wrote:
[09:42] * Skywalker has joined #winbolo
[09:42] <sheepbot> (heavy breathing), the force is strong with you young Skywalker, but you are not a Jedi yet!
[09:48] * Wonka has quit IRC (Quit: User pushed the X - because it's Xtra, baby)
[09:49] <MerryChristmas> sky.. you thought of it after two different people said they wanted to do it
[09:50] <Skywalker> huh?
[09:50] <Skywalker> two people talked about running ibl
[09:51] <Skywalker> not a 2x2 tourny
[09:51] <Skywalker> and how am I biased?
[09:51] <MerryChristmas> hold on, in game
[09:52] <MerryChristmas> you're biased
[09:52] <MerryChristmas> if one person can tell it, you are biased
[09:52] <MerryChristmas> it stimpy was accused, you would say it in the main channel
[09:53] <Skywalker> where have i shown bias?
[09:54] <MerryChristmas> ..you have trouble reading, dont you?
[09:54] <MerryChristmas> look up four lines
[09:54] <Skywalker> and wtf does it stimpy mean
[09:54] <Skywalker> if stimpy was accused of what?
[09:54] <MerryChristmas> usally when you read, 'it someone', its safe to say they meant 'if'
[09:55] <Skywalker> you need to finish your thoughts
[09:55] <MerryChristmas> was was lrl accused of?
[09:55] <Skywalker> was was?
[09:55] <MerryChristmas> sheepbot kill 62003
[09:55] <sheepbot> ack! ya got me! MerryChristmas just killed port 62003 on sheeps.winbolo.us
[09:55] <Skywalker> I have a tough time comprehending you
[09:55] <MerryChristmas> im i na fucking game you dumbass
[09:55] <Skywalker> im i na?
[09:56] <Skywalker> hi i na i guess, how are you?
[09:56] <MerryChristmas> of course
[09:56] <MerryChristmas> you cant answer me, only make jokes
[09:56] <MerryChristmas> I saw that coming
[09:56] <Skywalker> anyway, saying that people came to me suggesting LRL was hacking isnt biased
[09:57] <Skywalker> biased would have been to forfeit him and not privately talk with and resolve the matter
[09:57] <MerryChristmas> I doubt you would have mentioned anything if stimpy was accused
[09:57] <MerryChristmas> no
[09:57] <MerryChristmas> thats no biased at all
[09:57] <Skywalker> ok, so how am i biased?
[09:57] <Skywalker> biased means to favor something or someone
[09:57] <MerryChristmas> yep
[09:57] <Skywalker> and when did i do that?
[09:58] <MerryChristmas> ..
[09:58] <MerryChristmas> CAN YOU READ THIS LINE?
[09:58] <Skywalker> yes
[09:58] <MerryChristmas> ok, good, now
[09:58] <MerryChristmas> can ypu read this one
[09:58] <MerryChristmas> <MerryChristmas> I doubt you would have mentioned anything if stimpy was accused
[09:58] <Skywalker> I'm sure I would have
[09:59] <MerryChristmas> I doubt it
[09:59] <Skywalker> in my rules I sent out I explained the rules
[09:59] <Skywalker> tiy dudnt get the rules b/c you didnt play
[09:59] <Skywalker> whoa
[09:59] <Skywalker> *you didnt
[09:59] <MerryChristmas> I wonder why I didnt sign up..
[09:59] <Skywalker> b/c there was only so many slots
[09:59] <MerryChristmas> I wonder why alot of people didnt sign up
[09:59] <Skywalker> and you prolly thought you woulda lost early
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[10:00] <Skywalker> look at the caliber of players
[10:00] <MerryChristmas> Didnt you ask me to help you? Dont you think I would have been one of the first seeing that I knew that?
[10:00] <Skywalker> i asked if you knew asp
[10:00] <MerryChristmas> Three times
[10:01] <Skywalker> I didnt keep count
[10:01] <MerryChristmas> I wasnt thinking you did
[10:01] <Skywalker> but I asked more then you about different aspects of the tourny
[10:01] <Skywalker> for help
[10:01] <MerryChristmas> Great, so if you asked me to help.. and I knew it sign ups were starting..
[10:01] <Skywalker> even my initial post, I ask for any advice and help
[10:01] <Skywalker> and I got a lot of it
[10:02] <MerryChristmas> You're not getting this
[10:02] <MerryChristmas> Why do I talk to you?
[10:02] <MerryChristmas> This is pointless, either you know Im right and not letting on, or you're really that thick headed
[10:02] <Skywalker> know your right about what?
[10:02] <underdog> i replied to the cheating thing btw
[10:03] <underdog> im going to have to figure out
[10:03] <underdog> how to get the judges
[10:03] <underdog> to finish judging
[10:03] <Skywalker> underdog, do you agree with Jhood?
[10:03] <underdog> hmm
[10:03] <underdog> huh?
[10:03] <underdog> i dont even know/care what your talking about
[10:03] <Skywalker> scroll up
[10:03] <MerryChristmas> Skywalker, do you even know whay Im talking about?
[10:03] <Skywalker> he thinks I ran the tourny in a bias fashion
[10:03] <underdog> i have to sleep
[10:03] <underdog> bbl
[10:03] <Skywalker> ok cya underdog
[10:03] <MerryChristmas> Im sorry, that Y is supposed to be a T
[10:04] <Skywalker> ok, I'm going to the store
[10:04] <MerryChristmas> Obviously I cant prove it, but w/e. Afterwards I was yelled at for slandering etc etc.
[10:04] <Skywalker> cya Jhood
[10:04] <MerryChristmas> why bring it up
[10:04] <MerryChristmas> of course
[10:04] <Skywalker> where is the bias?
[10:05] <MerryChristmas> Browse by the GinkoBoloba, however you spell it
[10:05] <MerryChristmas> dude
[10:05] <Skywalker> why not bring it up in the public?
[10:05] <MerryChristmas> why not figure it out first?
[10:05] <Skywalker> maybe someone had more information
[10:05] <MerryChristmas> oh wait
[10:05] <MerryChristmas> i know
[10:05] <MerryChristmas> because you're little butt buddy slash mentor hates lrl
[10:05] <MerryChristmas> gee
[10:06] <MerryChristmas> you;re all biased
[10:06] <MerryChristmas> and cocky
[10:06] <Skywalker> anyways, there is absolutely no way of telling if someone used a memory hack, it's not like a speed hack
[10:06] <MerryChristmas> ..so why bring it up in public?
[10:06] <MerryChristmas> did zach tell you
[10:06] <MerryChristmas> lrl used it?
[10:07] <MerryChristmas> thats my one question Id like to have answerdd
[10:07] <Skywalker> I haven't told anyone who accused him, but it was several people
[10:07] <MerryChristmas> who told you he used it?
[10:07] <MerryChristmas> were they in teh game?
[10:07] <Skywalker> I ask the questions around here
[10:07] <MerryChristmas> were they in the game?
[10:07] <MerryChristmas> yes or no
[10:08] <MerryChristmas> i see
[10:08] <Skywalker> the game is 1x1 MerryChristmas, so what do you think
[10:08] <MerryChristmas> gee, so how the fuck would several people know if a hack was used?
[10:09] <Skywalker> I'm still curious where the bias is?
[10:09] <MerryChristmas> oh
[10:09] <MerryChristmas> my
[10:09] <MerryChristmas> god
[10:09] <Skywalker> b/c I wouldnt do it stimpy?
[10:09] <MerryChristmas> ok, let me type this
[10:09] <MerryChristmas> dont go anywhere
[10:10] <MerryChristmas> lrl and zach played a 1x1.. lrl wins.. lrl gets accused by serveral of you're friends who hang out on cyproject of using a memory hack, and such of which cant be proven,.
[10:10] <MerryChristmas> you tell everyone that lrl was accused
[10:10] <MerryChristmas> yet
[10:10] <Skywalker> cyproject?
[10:10] <MerryChristmas> he was accused by several people who were never in that game..
[10:11] <MerryChristmas> yes
[10:11] <MerryChristmas> dont ell me
[10:11] <Skywalker> I didn't know that #cyproject accused anyone
[10:11] <MerryChristmas> dude, get the big picture here
[10:12] <Skywalker> your premise had poor supporting evidence. and your fallacy was weak
[10:12] <Skywalker> kthnxbye
[10:12] * Skywalker has quit IRC (Quit: It comes in pints? I'm getting one.)
[10:12] <MerryChristmas> hahhaha
[10:12] <MerryChristmas> of fucking course




Sometimes you need to get to the point
Dec 22, 2003 22:55
fuck, don't quote soo much shit u moron.
Dec 23, 2003 01:07
MaddMaxx, now you see how other people feel about you. Seriously, if you shut your mouth and had any respect for others, you wouldn't be a half bad person. But, no, I guess you can keep on being a lameass.
Dec 23, 2003 03:15
holy crap ..... ok, here is a couple of facts .... lrl knows how to hack the game .... lrl has hacked the game .... I know these for fact becuase I showed him myself how to hack the game .... now .... weither he used it in the tourney is irrelevant, and there is absolutely no way to know anyways, You as a community of intelligent individuals will have to come up with answers for that yourself (which will strongly depend on weither you like lrl or not) .... now .... shutthefuckupanddie.

Min
Dec 23, 2003 03:50
MIN HAX!
Dec 23, 2003 03:52
^^^^ you guys skuk
Dec 23, 2003 04:06
Min wrote:
holy crap ..... ok, here is a couple of facts .... lrl knows how to hack the game .... lrl has hacked the game .... I know these for fact becuase I showed him myself how to hack the game .... now .... weither he used it in the tourney is irrelevant, and there is absolutely no way to know anyways, You as a community of intelligent individuals will have to come up with answers for that yourself (which will strongly depend on weither you like lrl or not) .... now .... shutthefuckupanddie.

Min


Nice post min, probably the best yet :)
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