REN BANNING

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Sep 12, 2005 00:35 REN BANNING
I just wanna say that ren banned me today for unjust reasons.

[20:30:22] * You were kicked from #winbolo by ren (Flooding, ruining password games, spamming winbolo message bar.)

First of all, I did not participate in any pw games today. So I am banned for ruining one when I wasn't in one?
Spamming winbolo message bar? I was joking around in an open... and opens don't have anything to do with the policy ren.
Ren is not an official op. He has no chanserv powers.
He did not warn or kick me once, as you are supposed to according to the policy.

Not only is ren not an official op... but he banned me for opens... thats not part of the policy little buddy.

Ren, grow up. You will never be and old timer, or a powerful person. You want to be somebody in a position of power, like min or LRL... but you are just a 16 year old for gods sake.
Sep 12, 2005 00:53
You flooded #IRC with approximately 50 lines. That you flooded my message bar in opens; causing my bolo program to hang in 2 seperate games is beside the point. Are we clear?
Sep 12, 2005 00:55
Now, now. First of all, opens are meant to fuck around in with. Second of all, I do not see the .us policy stating that one may be alloud to ban without a verbal warning, then kick warning, no matter what the circumstance. Are we clear?
Sep 12, 2005 00:57
http://www.winbolo.us/policy.htm


How many people actually READ the damn policy?
Sep 12, 2005 01:06
You've had your fair share of warnings, Dan. The only reason we warn people is so that first-time IRCers won't get shafted because they don't know the rules of the road yet.

And really... you've had such a lack of common courtesty. Policy or no, you had this coming to you.
Sep 12, 2005 01:08
First of all, I didn't get warned today for this ban... and second of all... where does it say that only first timers need to be warned in the policy? eh?
Sep 12, 2005 01:09
Try reading what I wrote, Dan, you've drawn all the wrong conclusions. Once again you demonstrate your complete inability to put 2 and 2 together.
Sep 12, 2005 01:14
I've had my fair share of warnings? I wasn't warned once today. And the policy CLEARLY states that I must be warned. This is where the 2+2 dont really fit like they should Nova.
Sep 12, 2005 01:15
Strike two, Dan. :roll:
Sep 12, 2005 01:16
I've had a lack of common courtesy. I honestly don't care about that shit. What I care about, Is that I was kicked and banned not following the policy.
Sep 12, 2005 01:17
It is simply amazing the way you take things out of context, it really is. Have you thought of taking up politics?
Sep 12, 2005 01:20
Nova wrote:
It is simply amazing the way you take things out of context, it really is. Have you thought of taking up politics?


Just please cut it out. If your not going to give me a good reason for my banning without a warning and prior kick, then just don't post here. On .us, we are supposed to follow policy, reguardless of anything else.
Sep 12, 2005 01:24
I'm not cutting it out until you go back through this topic with an open mind, read it again and understand what I'm trying to say.
Sep 12, 2005 01:30
Nova wrote:
I'm not cutting it out until you go back through this topic with an open mind, read it again and understand what I'm trying to say.


You are trying to say that I have "had this coming to me".

I respect your opinion.

But as far as I'm concerned, the policy doesn't have any cummulative offenses which I can be kick/banned for other than banwalking.

The policy should be followed, reguardless of ouside opinion.
Sep 12, 2005 01:35
DANTHEMAN! wrote:
But as far as I'm concerned, the policy doesn't have any cummulative offenses which I can be kick/banned for other than banwalking.


Okay? Explain.
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Sep 12, 2005 01:36
What I was trying to say there, was that what I did a week ago doesn't affect my rights in #winbolo today, at least that's what the policy implies.
Sep 12, 2005 01:38
Again, explain. Quote the policy, show me where it says that.
Sep 12, 2005 01:41
Go show me where it says that Last week's action affects how the ops should judge what I am doing today?
Sep 12, 2005 01:43
No no no, Dan, the burden of proof is on you. You started the topic, you started the buzz about policy being not followed, you back it up.
Sep 12, 2005 01:43
Dan... I have to side with Nova on this one... I even warned you through PM to let up on the "DTM-ness" but like usual, you kept being a retard. It's deserved on your part, and I hope it lasts a while... maybe a month or so. Learn your fucking lesson, Dan, and don't complain to me. I've told you what to do to avoid this... and obviously it didn't help. So long, Dan, and I hope you come back with a completed version of DTMM! ..or not, because it kills winbolo. assfag.
Sep 12, 2005 01:46
Nova wrote:
No no no, Dan, the burden of proof is on you. You started the topic, you started the buzz about policy being not followed, you back it up.

Go Nova! w00t w00t
Sep 12, 2005 01:48
Nova wrote:
No no no, Dan, the burden of proof is on you. You started the topic, you started the buzz about policy being not followed, you back it up.



I'm saying that he has to warn me.

If you are an op, and you see someone committing one of the kickable/banable offense, instead of just kicking them outright, *first* /msg them a polite message that *respectfully* ask them to stop the behavior. If they refuse or ignore the request then proceed to kick them with the reason stated in the kick. If they come back and continue the behavior, then go ahead and kick-ban them for a period of time. The reason for a kick/ban is to always be stated, rather in the kick message or in the channel. The goal is to kick the least people possible, and in the event of kicking/banning people, to treat them with the *utmost respect possible*, no matter how rude they are.

But there it is... you asked...
Sep 12, 2005 01:49
Jason#8 wrote:
So long, Dan, and I hope you come back with a completed version of DTMM! ..or not, because it kills winbolo. assfag.


Hey, I fixed that... just because you have an old version doesn't mean you can complain about previously fixed bugs...
Sep 12, 2005 02:01
Earth to DTM...here you go:

http://www.winbolo.us/forums/viewtopic.php?p=419&sid=82d283b88706d1bbb11142ff7f418ceb#419

There it is. All the reasons explained in clear easy to understand english. I have to also testify that you have spammed the ticker in an open game this past Friday night I was in. In fact, you also repeatedly requested alliances with me that I rejected. Open game or not, those are bannable offenses.

Dan, you know what you are doing is annoying. You are purposely pushing the envelope on everyone's patience and now everyone has had enough and you are going to pay the penalty. That's too bad because there were times I actually had some fun hangin' with you.

-DAllen
Sep 12, 2005 02:08
I have a question here for all of you:

If you were an op, and observed DTM flood roughly 5 times a day with 10+ lines day after day after day -- and politely asked him every day to please not flood, How many of you would actually warn him after he's been kick/banned in the past and has been warned already what his actions of spamming will get him?

Secondly, I'm 1000% percent sure if acro didn't have you on ignore, he would have already banned you weeks ago. In fact, i've seen three different ops, and two that aren't ops politely ask you to stop flooding. That's more than enough of warnings to me.

I'm leaving the ban up to acro to unban you when he thinks its right, until then, maybe an attitude adjustment will happen?
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