autospawned games on sheeps.winbolo.us

Just to let you all know, I have received a request from Min to stop using his auto-spawner, so from this point forward, there will no longer be games automatically on the tracker from my server (which also happens to the only game active much of the time).

If anyone is able to create another auto-spawner for windoze, I would be willing to use it, or something scripted in mIRC.

you can use mine if u can keep it running........i think it should.......if u have problems jsut email me or get someone on .com to pass me a message and i will be more then happy to make u a custom version if i have to

Suicide Jockey wrote:

you can use mine if u can keep it running........i think it should.......if u have problems jsut email me or get someone on .com to pass me a message and i will be more then happy to make u a custom version if i have to

Thank SJ, maybe the none-irc'er doesn't have to miss out. I have started up your auto spawner to see how it runs. Lets hope it stays up.

sheeps wrote:

Just to let you all know, I have received a request from Min to stop using his auto-spawner, so from this point forward, there will no longer be games automatically on the tracker from my server (which also happens to the only game active much of the time).

If anyone is able to create another auto-spawner for windoze, I would be willing to use it, or something scripted in mIRC.

That's a bullshit thing for min to do. Once you've handed codes to someone you can't ask them not to run it, your running sheepbot is completely independent to any of min's computer resources.

So what now, min is gonna ask elvis not to release winbolo to people because min beta tested some of winbolo and thus min doesn't want people to benefit and have fun because he himself doesn't understand how to have fun in a community? Can you imagine elvis saying "ok, min, since you figured out the slowdown rates for tanks, and you are now pissed off at the entire world, I will no longer allow people to play winbolo."

Is there any more egomaniac behavior then that?

Sheeps - you don't have to pull down sheepbot cuz whoever wrote the codes for it is being an asshole for even thinking he has the right to ask you to stop using a program he was giving away for free.

he's talking spawner man.....that would be like elvis.......making a new version of the tracker so only new versions work.....then not releaseing new one........he can kill it if he wants........its his work...his project.....but i can't ask sheeps to remove my mirc scripts from sheepbot......cuz well i don't care.....min had every right really....but oh well........technically theres another spawner up for now hehe

fi wrote:

That's a bullshit thing for min to do. Once you've handed codes to someone you can't ask them not to run it, your running sheepbot is completely independent to any of min's computer resources.

actually, I can, and I did, who's running it is irrelevant, its my software. thats like saying microsoft can't call you up and revoke your licsense to run windows...

fi wrote:

So what now, min is gonna ask elvis not to release winbolo to people because min beta tested some of winbolo and thus min doesn't want people to benefit and have fun because he himself doesn't understand how to have fun in a community? Can you imagine elvis saying "ok, min, since you figured out the slowdown rates for tanks, and you are now pissed off at the entire world, I will no longer allow people to play winbolo."

Don't be a retard fi, winbolo is not mine, I didn't program it, its not my intellicual property. But I really do appreciate the effort to make me look like a fucking jerk. Like it seems you've done your best at doing since I've left. and to think I considered you my friend .... I should have learned by now .... and btw .... if elvis decided to not allow anyone to use winbolo, he could, its called a licsense agreement.

fi wrote:

Is there any more egomaniac behavior then that?

can you stab me in the back anymore? ... it feels so good ... so so good ...

fi wrote:

Sheeps - you don't have to pull down sheepbot cuz whoever wrote the codes for it is being an asshole for even thinking he has the right to ask you to stop using a program he was giving away for free.

free is irrelevant, and I thank sheeps for following my request. if he wants to talk to me about it, he can email me, as with most things, I'm sure something could be worked out ... simply by talking ... and "gasp" not treating each other like shit.... which seems you have become unable to do fi... and lrl, and the rest of you for christs sake ... why don't you just get back to playing bolo instead of being such morons about power that you think may exist ..... its a bloody irc channel, the only one with power is elvis.

Min

OMG! min made a post! I dont know why fi is being such a faggit to min tho just because he decided to leave.

the only one with power is elvis.

Elvis is not the only person with power. Server ops <<like NemoKrad>> have lotsa power too! :shock:

-Madd Maxx-

Aha! You're itching to come back! I knew you didn't have it within you to stay away. :)

ps. Saying stuff to your face about your own behavior in trying to shut down winbolo services is hardling stabing in the back. It's called being honest and upfront.

fi wrote:

Aha! You're itching to come back! I knew you didn't have it within you to stay away. :)

true, true :)

Madd Maxx wrote:

OMG! min made a post! I dont know why fi is being such a faggit to min tho just because he decided to leave.

MM - my post had nothing to do with min leaving. My post had everything to do with min trying to shut down a service (sheepbot spawner) that allows newbies to play on strict games (without passwords) - without an auto spawner like sheepbot (the only auto spawner), it significantly reduces the ability of newbies to play strict games, and without newbies, winbolo eventually dies off. But thanks to SJ, we won't have to worry about it hopefully.

I have no intention of ever coming back to the irc channel fi. and I was refering to your comments to elvis that got me and killjoy's mods removed, that was backstabbing. considering it was fullout lying as well. I've also heard many disturbing reports of your and lrl's behavior since I vacated the irc channel. very very mature. and btw .. I don't call asking sheeps to stop using what I've programmed taking down winbolo services, since last I checked, sheepsbot was huddling on winbolo.us. and well, thats hardly part of the winbolo community. why is it again that sheeps can't be like moeser? ... you all did your part in my leaving the irc channel, and my much reduced posting on this webforum. "you made your bed, now sleep in it" .

Min

Madd Maxx wrote:

OMG! min made a post! I dont know why fi is being such a faggit to min tho just because he decided to leave.

the only one with power is elvis.

Elvis is not the only person with power. Server ops <<like NemoKrad>> have lotsa power too! :shock:

-Madd Maxx-

The sort of power nemokrad has is irrelevant to the community. the only power that provides, is stopping spammers. Like seriously. who cares if you have the ability to ban someone from a server that has what ... 30 people on it at peek times? ... how is that "power" ? ...

Min

nemokrad and the other ops dont really have any actual power, just illusions of power.

-instinct

fi wrote:

Madd Maxx wrote:

OMG! min made a post! I dont know why fi is being such a faggit to min tho just because he decided to leave.

MM - my post had nothing to do with min leaving. My post had everything to do with min trying to shut down a service (sheepbot spawner) that allows newbies to play on strict games (without passwords) - without an auto spawner like sheepbot (the only auto spawner), it significantly reduces the ability of newbies to play strict games, and without newbies, winbolo eventually dies off. But thanks to SJ, we won't have to worry about it hopefully.

well big guy, as someone who's had to play on all the servers that have no passwords, since I haven't had the luxury of getting them from the irc channel. I'd say that adding passwords to the servers was a huge mistake in the first place. even with sheeps spawner which is 98 percent of the time locked (alot of friggen good it does if noone can join it.) there is at most 4 games on the tracker, 2 paniqbot, one open game, and one sheeps passworded game. great support. great "services"

Min

Min wrote:

since last I checked, sheepsbot was huddling on winbolo.us. and well, thats hardly part of the winbolo community.

Winbolo.us is a part of the winbolo community (even if its smaller than .com and is run by LRL)

-Madd Maxx-

Just becuase its the only place you can hang out after you are a moron on the other server doesn't mean it is. Does elvis support it? ... does ten support it? does canuck even know about it? ... is it a offical backup server? has elvis offically posted something saying it is? ... there are 4 things that are a part of this community, the tracker, winbolo.net winbolo.com and irc.winbolo.com. as long as winbolo.us is owned by someone who's name is not john morrison.. then its not. thats like saying some other server a bunch of people from winbolo hang out on is part of the winbolo community....

Min

Min wrote:

I have no intention of ever coming back to the irc channel fi. and I was refering to your comments to elvis that got me and killjoy's mods removed, that was backstabbing.

What I said was completely true: Elvis was telling us to talk it out on wbn instead of everyone emailing him about problems (btw, I've never emailed him, nor have I /msg him about the problems) - I told him that I didn't post any more serious posts since you guys would delete stuff you didn't want to see. That's not backstabbing, that's being upfront and honest as I said it in view of everyone in that channel.

And look at what's happened since there's no longer a threat of posts being deleted - we've started talking and posting on this forum again - it's refreshing being able to talk honestly with each other instead of being muted due to the threat of being moded.

I don't call asking sheeps to stop using what I've programmed taking down winbolo services, since last I checked, sheepsbot was huddling on winbolo.us. and well, thats hardly part of the winbolo community.

Actually min, winbolo.us is very much a part of the community now.

why is it again that sheeps can't be like moeser? ...

Aha. So is this the true reason you asked sheeps to remove sheepbot auto spawner - because he wasn't using .com and thus you have no power to regulate the people using his services.

Ah, the reason for all this is revealed

Well Min have fun, I won’t be a part in this watching you throw shit at whom or whatever you want. Those reports are probably one sided. I see you treating people like utter shit, not I. Like it or not you requesting sheeps to remove it hurts the community. I’m sorry to see you doing that.

"Does elvis support it?" well he's been there till ping out, make your own conclusion

Min wrote:

Just becuase its the only place you can hang out after you are a moron on the other server doesn't mean it is. Does elvis support it? ... does ten support it? does canuck even know about it? ... is it a offical backup server? has elvis offically posted something saying it is? ... there are 4 things that are a part of this community, the tracker, winbolo.net winbolo.com and irc.winbolo.com. as long as winbolo.us is owned by someone who's name is not john morrison.. then its not. thats like saying some other server a bunch of people from winbolo hang out on is part of the winbolo community....

Min

So, I guess the #bolo channel that's being run the past 10 years by boloers isn't part of the bolo community since Stuart Chesire never owned the server it's been on, never operated the chanel and never even went on that channel.

I guess following your logic, the rec.games.bolo forum that was used by all boloers to exchange ideas, humour and flaming wars was not part of the community because Stuart Chesire didnt' own it and had nothing to do with its creation.

Wow, I guess I never was part of the bolo community following your logic!

But seriously min, a community is not tools, channels, trackers. A community is a group of people who share a similiar interest. winbolo.us is now used sufficiently to be regarded as part of the community. And yes, elvis does hang out at .us too. But the fact that elvis does hang out there doesn't mean he makes it part of the community - as Stuart Chesire never went on #bolo channels to my knowledge, and the members of that channel were fully a part of the bolo community.

fi wrote:

What I said was completely true: Elvis was telling us to talk it out on wbn instead of everyone emailing him about problems (btw, I've never emailed him, nor have I /msg him about the problems) - I told him that I didn't post any more serious posts since you guys would delete stuff you didn't want to see. That's not backstabbing, that's being upfront and honest as I said it in view of everyone in that channel.

that I didn't want to see? ... me and killjoy have only deleted messages that involved threats to sticks life from maddmaxx, and one emoticians flood, again from maddmaxx, the one thread that had something from you and lrl posted in it that I deleted .... becuase it would have looked really freaking stupid if I deleted just the offending post ... but thanks ... thanks for treating me like shit .... I deleted a total of 3 posts .... but of course .. why would you believe me anyways? ... but ya .. your totally right man ... those 3 posts threatening sticks life ... ya ... those needed to be here man..

fi wrote:

And look at what's happened since there's no longer a threat of posts being deleted - we've started talking and posting on this forum again - it's refreshing being able to talk honestly with each other instead of being muted due to the threat of being moded.

ya .. and its really a better place isn't it .. *looks around* honestly .. It was better when you were afraid of the big mean moderators.... give me a break ..

fi wrote:

Actually min, winbolo.us is very much a part of the community now.

if you say so big guy ....

fi wrote:

Aha. So is this the true reason you asked sheeps to remove sheepbot auto spawner - because he wasn't using .com and thus you have no power to regulate the people using his services.

oh ya .. you got me .. you figured it all out!! your so smart!!! *sarcasm* .. ya man .. I need to regulate a place that want nothing more to do with ... you want to know the TRUE reason? ... its becuase sheeps is one of the people that drove me from this community, and I don't want him using anything I programmed for good or for ill. that is the truth. if you don't like it .. cram it up your ass. you guys arn't interested in my being here, I'm not interested in what I've built sticking around either. hopefully in 4 or 5 months, noone will remeber who I was, that is what would make me truly happy.

Min

LRL wrote:

Ah, the reason for all this is revealed

Well Min have fun, I won’t be a part in this watching you throw shit at whom or whatever you want. Those reports are probably one sided. I see you treating people like utter shit, not I. Like it or not you requesting sheeps to remove it hurts the community. I’m sorry to see you doing that.

"Does elvis support it?" well he's been there till ping out, make your own conclusion

well lrl, I'm getting god damn tired of you. I sat back and did nothing while you threatened me and my friends, I sat back and did nothing when you DoS'd nemokrad over and over. why don't you just crawl back into the hole you came from?. nothing you say or do has good intentions, I just hope someone else figures that out before its too late.

Min

fi wrote:

I guess following your logic, the rec.games.bolo forum that was used by all boloers to exchange ideas, humour and flaming wars was not part of the community because Stuart Chesire didnt' own it and had nothing to do with its creation.

But seriously min, a community is not tools, channels, trackers. A community is a group of people who share a similiar interest. winbolo.us is now used sufficiently to be regarded as part of the community. And yes, elvis does hang out at .us too. But the fact that elvis does hang out there doesn't mean he makes it part of the community - as Stuart Chesire never went on #bolo channels to my knowledge, and the members of that channel were fully a part of the bolo community.

ya, your right. I retract my previous statement regarding that. my prejucidice towards lrl has clouded my logic regarding devices of his creation.

Min

well big guy, as someone who's had to play on all the servers that have no passwords, since I haven't had the luxury of getting them from the irc channel. I'd say that adding passwords to the servers was a huge mistake in the first place. even with sheeps spawner which is 98 percent of the time locked (alot of friggen good it does if noone can join it.) there is at most 4 games on the tracker, 2 paniqbot, one open game, and one sheeps passworded game. great support. great "services"

Instead of shutting down sheepbot to make it harder to play unpassworded games, you should be doing all you can to encourage people to set up more spawners so more unpassworded games could be played. Seems like by asking sheeps to shutdown his spawner, you're trying to kill this one cow because you can't get milk from it as much as you'd like simply because others are drinking from it at the same time you want to.

I do agree with part of your statement - that it would better if there were more un-passworded games auto-spawning for those not coming on IRC. But shutting down sheepbot isn't the answer to that.

fi wrote:

Instead of shutting down sheepbot to make it harder to play unpassworded games, you should be doing all you can to encourage people to set up more spawners so more unpassworded games could be played. Seems like by asking sheeps to shutdown his spawner, you're trying to kill this one cow because you can't get milk from it as much as you'd like simply because others are drinking from it at the same time you want to.

I do agree with part of your statement - that it would better if there were more un-passworded games auto-spawning for those not coming on IRC. But shutting down sheepbot isn't the answer to that.

and as I said, I'm asking my programming to be removed, all it would take, is someone else to spend 5 hours programming something similar to replace it. I'm asking it to be removed for other reasons. its not like it'll be the end of the friggen world for you boys to get someone with half an ounce of programming ability to program something else to do the same job. the community will live on, with or without me.

Min

fi wrote:

you should be doing all you can to encourage people to set up more spawners so more unpassworded games could be played.

no, this is what "you" should be doing. or someone else who gives a damn, becuase I no longer do. and why should I care about a bunch of people who hate me?.

Min